Friday, February 20, 2009

Somebody's Got To Say It...

There’s something happening in Gospel Music that’s been going on for many years that has managed to “fly under the radar”, because those who travel, sing, and record the greatest, most powerful music in the world have always feared confronting it “head-on”. No one wants to be offensive, or controversial, but at the same time, apparently, everyone has been afraid to be honest with the people we sing to. However, with the ever-increasing use and popularity of computers and the internet, the time has come when somebody has to step up and say what virtually every Gospel Artist is thinking, but afraid to say… There is a very real possibility that we are just a few short years away from not being able to continue to record and produce music any longer.

I’m certain the initial responses to that statement are “WHAT? Are you serious? What are you talking about?” Those are legitimate and understandable responses, so I will attempt to explain the situation as clearly as possible, with the fewest words possible.

Most people who love to listen to Gospel music don’t know the majority of traveling Gospel Artists derive somewhere near fifty percent (50%) of their revenue from the sale of CDs, DVDs, and other recorded media. In 2008, that revenue dropped by close to twenty percent (20%), for most Artists. Most people would say that decline was a result of the slowing economy, but in reality, sales of recorded music have been slowly declining over the last five years, even when the overall economy was strong. If you don’t believe me, go to your local Christian Bookstore and ask the manager. Is the decline because fewer people are listening to Gospel Music? No. Actually, more people are listening now, than ever before. I believe the decline is a direct result of the availability of illegal copies of music easily found on the internet, as well as the availability of inexpensive equipment that allows anyone to make illegal copies of CDs in their own home.

Why are free downloading, “file sharing”, and copying illegal?

I have often said most Christians who are involved in illegal downloading, copying, and “file sharing”, don’t realize what they’re doing is stealing. Here are some facts most Gospel music lovers don’t know:

It costs thousands…even tens of thousands of dollars to produce a CD that sells for $15. That “selling” price has remained steady since the introduction of Gospel Music CDs in 1984, while the production costs have risen with inflation. To recoup the initial investment, the Artist or record company must sell several thousand, or tens of thousands of CDs before the first penny of net profit is realized. This can take several months, a year, or even longer. Today, with so much “free” music available from friends or websites, the time it takes to recoup the initial investment takes longer and longer, and in some cases, the production investment is never fully recouped and real dollars are lost. You don’t have to be a mathematical genius to figure out the Artists and record companies can’t repeat that cycle for an extended period of time without serious financial consequences.

When a Gospel Artist makes a new recording, there are costs involved that most listeners don’t know about. After the recording, or production, is finished, you add the cost of photography for the cover, the cover art, the printing of the CD booklets, the cost of manufacturing the CDs. After that, you add in the cost of marketing, required to let the public know about the new CD, the cost of mechanical royalties, and the producer royalties. When you add all that together, neither the Artist nor any record company is included in the figures. They don’t see any return on the investment until CDs are sold, and since Bookstores, other retail outlets, and “legal” online sites like iTunes and Amazon.com have to receive a percentage of the selling price to stay in business, the profit is reduced even more, which further increases the number of sold CDs required to “break even” on the original investment.

Federal Copyright Law allows someone, who purchases a CD, to make additional copies for “personal” use. That would mean one copy for the house, one for the car, and, to be honest, one for anyone who lives in your household. It doesn’t include the next-door neighbor, the friend who lives in another city, or anyone on the internet who has access to your music files through a file sharing program. Once a recording ends up in the hands of someone who lives outside your household, it is an illegal copy and the person who made it, as well as the one who receives it, is stealing. The reason is simple… the Artist doesn’t get paid for a product they produced, the record company doesn’t get paid for a product they invested in, the songwriter doesn’t get paid for their contribution to the recording, the publisher doesn’t get paid, the producer doesn’t paid…no one gets paid.

Here is an example I shared with a car dealer a couple of years ago, after he proudly told me he had found a site on the internet where he was getting our music for free:

I said “Wow, that’s pretty cool. Let me ask you something… can I drive off your lot in a new car without paying for it, keep it for a year or two, and let my friends drive it, if I promise not to sell it…only use it?” His answer was a very quick, “NO, of course not.” My response was, “Well… that was the same excuse you used to justify stealing our music. You said you were just downloading the music and making CDs for your car so you could listen to it… you weren’t selling it, so you weren’t stealing it.” I can tell you that it only took him a few seconds to figure out that what he was doing was wrong, after I had explained it to him in a way he could understand.

The bottom line is this…Gospel Artists simply can not continue to produce quality music recordings if more and more people decide to download, file share, or copy CDs without paying for them. It’s simple mathematics. It’s also easy to figure out that if the trend continues, we will begin to see Artists cut-back on their travel, make fewer recordings, and even go out of business completely in the not-so-distant future.

Now that you know the facts about stealing or illegally downloading and sharing music, you are responsible for the knowledge you’ve gained. I hope you will join us in getting the word out to your friends, and making them aware of the seriousness of this problem. I really believe if Christians know the truth, they will respond correctly.

Recorded music is one of the most effective tools available to spread the Gospel and encourage Christians. We have to work together to insure its availability for many years to come.

48 comments:

holston401 said...

Thanks so much for sharing this information,Gerald. Like you said, I believe there are a lot of people who don't know or understand the legal aspect of this. Thank you for making that very clear. I hope a lot of people will hear you and respond by doing what is right. God bless you and Greater Vision Ministries.

Barbara said...

Thank you so much for this info. The true impact of what you just explained had never really hit me. Thou I don't download music I know that there are many many others that do. What a shame to loose something so precious because of people not understanding what they are doing and the end result. I pray that many will read this and pass the word along to others who do not grasp what they are doing and what they will loose if they continue.
You're group is such a blessing. Everytime I hear one of your songs on the radio or play one of your CD's at home I am lifted up. You're true love for the Lord and what he is allowing you to do shines through in your music as well as your spoken words. I pray for encouragement and strengh for all of you.
God Bless you all!
Barbara

Sheryl Grieve said...

Amen!! I agree with you. I didn't know of the magnitude of the problem. I know a good Christian couple in our Church that does some of that. One time they told me they could copy something off for me. I said that is illegal. They said oh, ok. But I will copy your article and give them it. Thanks for sharing your heart. I do encourage you to continue to speak out on issues. We need strong Men of God to speak for the LORD. Sheryl G.

Sheryl Grieve said...

Amen, I agree with you. I didn't realize the magnitude of the problem. This does sadned me. A couple in our Church told me one time they could copy something off for me and I said," that's illegal". They said ok. I will make a copy of this article and give it to them.
Please continue to speak out on issues. We need strong Men of God to tell it like it is. Because you know the Bible and follow it this has made you strong and given the mind of Christ. Others need to be reminded of the Christian ethics, character, etc. Thanks and God Bless. Sheryl

Jenell said...

I totally agree that copying CD's for others is stealing income for the artists & their families. I don't even make a copy for my car, I buy an extra CD for the car. I've had friends ask me to make a copy so they won't have to buy one. I refuse, saying it is illegal and you are taking the artist's livlihood.
GV's ministry means so much to me & I pray daily for you. God bless you, Jenell McNeill

Jenell said...

I agrre totally with your blog. I don't even copy a CD for my car. I buy an extra for the car. I've had friends ask to let them copy my CDs so they don't have to buy them. I tell them, sorry, that is illegal, plus you are taking away the artists livlihood.
GV's ministry has been a blessing to me through the years. I pray for you all every day.
God bless you, Jenell McNeill

Christopher said...

Gerald,
Preach it! I have purchased the Faces CD alone three times. Not because I needed that many, but because I kept losing them. I do, however, copy them to my computer so I can load them on to my MP3 player. I am in complete agreement with the stealing definition. Somebody had to say it, sure, I will bet you wished it was someone else who said it a long time ago. Godspeed to you and GV. Keep spreading the Word, His returning is drawing nigh!

Judy said...

I agree totally. When we are at a concert or NQC the groups always have a package special. We buy the package. We give the CD's that we already have to friends as gifts. I am so blessed through your ministry. I pray for you everyday. I have asked the Lord to make a way for my husband & I to go on the Alaskan Cruise with Dr. Charles Stanley. Please pray for us, too. God bless and keep you safe.

Mr. Big said...

Gerald,

I love your music and the Greater Vision message and am a big fan. I also purchase your music legally. But....isn't your #1 goal to spread Jesus' name and the message of the Bible? Imagine this scenario: What if I copied your latest CD to my computer and make 100 copies. Then I take those 100 copies out with me to witness to the lost. I give away these 100 copies and out of this 20 or 5 or even 1 soul comes to know Christ as his savior, aren't you happy??? Besides, this scenario doesn't take a dime from your pocket because none of these 100 people would have bought your CD otherwise. Plus, maybe they will buy in the future.

My thought, I guess, is that it's only stealing if it takes the place of purchasing.

God Bless! and I hope to see you guys in Dayton in April!!!

Ari said...

Excellent article!

The Winecoffs said...

Gerald, thank you so much for saying what needed to be said a long time ago. Many of us who are out here pounding the pavement and working our schedules singing in small churches across this great county have felt the effects that this deal has caused us all for quite some time. Some folks simply don't understand that the cost of recording has just gone through the roof and, like you said, we still sell our CD's for the same prices that we did 10 years ago!

I had a lady stand right in front of our product table after purchasing a CD from us, offer to make copies for anyone who wanted one. As if that wasn't enough another offered to purchase a different CD and they would copy them and share with the others. Now the story doesn't end there. The pastor had asked me before our concert if they could record it so that they may be able to share it with their home bound folks and of course, I gladly gave him permission and then he, standing right in front of this same table with these same folks, offered to make CD's of the concert to share with anyone who wanted one!

Well, I have said enough, but I am thankful that someone of your caliber has the "guts" to say what you've said! Thanks for being who you are! May God continue to bless you! We love you guys!

In His Service,

Robert Winecoff

PS> Tell Rodney that I said hello!

Gerald Wolfe said...

Mr. Big,

That's a nice thought... making copies of CDs to use as witnessing tools, but my comment would be... it's either stealing or it's not, and I think (and the Federal Copyright Law states) it's stealing. Why not purchase the CDs to distribute to the folks you're trying to reach with the Gospel. If you're talking one hundred copies, you would certainly qualify for a substantial discount from the record companies, and wouldn't be breaking the law. That's the way I personally help distribute Bibles to people all over the world. I purchase them through the Gideons International Ministry, and they place them in the hands of people who "otherwise wouldn't purchase them".

Question... if your neighbor is a farmer who grows tomatoes, which he sells to make his living... and you help yourself to a bushel of them and then distribute those to others, without his knowledge or permission... is that stealing, or just sharing the tomatoes with others who otherwise wouldn't have purchased them? I think your neighbor would call it stealing... and you probably would too.

We'll see you in Dayton.

Chris Dover said...

Gerald,
I agree with the majority of what you said however as a composer I chose to become very familiar with copyright law and your view of permission to make copies is a little liberal. The copyright laws are clear that a right does exsist that a convienence copy can be made but that the liscense only applies to the person who purchased the CD. This law implies that convienence copies should not be in use simultaneously. In other words I can have a CD and make a copy and keep one at home and the other in the car but while I am riding in my car listening to my CD someone else (even if they are in my family) at my house cannot be listening to the copy. They are not the owner of the CD. The law was written orgionally to allow for data backup and less for convienence.

Steven Ridings said...

Right on Brother. We ought to be honest in all our dealings. You guys are ministers. To illegally reproduce your music (or any others in Gospel music) is as if we are stealing out of the offering plate on Sunday.

Illegally reproducing ANY music is illegal and we are commanded to obey the laws until it keeps us from serving God. As far as I know, paying for a CD (helping ya'll continue spreading the Gospel) is NOT hindering me from serving God. It is actually a BIG encouragement in my service to the Lord.

Continue being BOLD brother.

Gerald Wolfe said...

Chris,

Your comment is a more accurate, literal interpretation of the Copyright Act, and serves to strongly support the seriousness of the current issue.

I have to admit, you're the first person to ever refer to me as being "liberal" on any subject! LOL

Gary said...

Our Lord commands us to "render unto Caesar, that which is Caesar's." The law of the land is the law of the land. But, isn't there a higher power and law that we as Christians should adhere to?

In response to those who say they make copies to use in evangelism, do you realize that churches and individuals who distribute Bibles and gospel tracts and other books to the lost must purchase every copy they use? Why is it that we think because we have the capability of burning CD's of DVD's or even using a copy machine to make a few copies or even a hundred of a published song for our choir to sing would honor God? As a worship leader, I want to do everything possible to honor God and receive His blessing on my ministry. How could He possibly bless that which I have stolen? I have Christian brothers and sisters, and sometimes staff who get upset with me because I refuse to make or allow anyone in the music department to make illegal copies of any copyrighted media. And, just as bad, are those who purchase a Christian DVD movie to show to their entire church on movie night without paying the license or royalty fees!

Gary Carrier
Worship Leader
Trinity Baptist Church
Hendersonville, TN

matt baker ministries said...

Gerald,
This is such a strong and controversial issue...I would hate to think that something like this will put groups off the road, but you are so right. People have to get paid for their work. It's the way the free market works.If somebody doesn't get paid for their work, then they are less likely to produce quality work.And for those who don't think that think that it is stealing... here are some reasons I would rather pay 15 bucks than risk violating my conscience:
1. I would rather pay $15 and know I did right by a group and hope that I can help keep them on the road.
2. I would want to honor the group's request...after all, you're the one that drove to see them and to buy their music.
3. Think about if you worked for months on something and never got a dime from it.
4. You argue "well, this is for the work of the Lord"...let me ask you, does the missionary need support to stay on the mission field?

These are just a few things to think about...groups like Greater Vision are missionaries... they go and spread the gospel to the places that we can't go to...and we can play a small part in their ministry by buying their CD's from them..I try to only buy CD's at concerts..they cost less and I know the money goes directly to them. Gerald, I stand behind you and support you in this, brother...GOd Bless,
Matt Baker

Dale said...

Gerald,
In reference to Mr. Big's comment concerning making illegal copies and distributing them to the lost, I am reminded of the principle from 1 Samuel 15 that doomed King Saul. "It is never right to do wrong in order to get a chance to do right." Appreciate your character in standing for what is right. Keep on keeping on.
Dale Cunningham
Johnson City, TN

Ronnie Flamingo said...

Great comments and I totally agree. I do find a reason for some, but not all of this piracy. The lack of southern gospel music on line to download for cost. I have always been fortunate in that iTunes carries most of GV's catalogue, but the other groups' stuff is harder to find. I always thought that groups should offer downloads of new projects on their websites because it obvious the mainstream has no desire to do so. Living in an area where the groups don't come too often leaves me without new music most of the time.

Of course, that's no excuse for stealing, and it seems odd that in this genre of music that stealing should even be mentioned.

madcab76 said...

How much have the services like iTunes had on the recovery of investment in recordings? As a Greater Vision fan, I always purchase the whole cd on iTunes (your latest one has not been available as of yet any idea why?), but most of the time, I hear a song i like on Enlightne, then go to the computer and buy that song, and maybe a few more from the recording. So instead of paying the full $15 ($9.99 on iTunes), it only costs $2-3.

Gerald Wolfe said...

Ronnie,

We would love to have the technology to offer downloads directly from our website, but the software is still very expensive. We, along with several other Artists are working on this problem, and hope to be able to offer downloads on our websites in the near future.

Matt said...

Part of the solution to this whole problem is having your music on iTunes or a similar download site where we can download just one or two of the songs we want rather than buying an entire CD. Now you explained it as we are stealing from your pocket when we only have to pay $15 dollars for a CD. Well I would ask you. How much would you be willing to pay for a CD that only has one song on it that you even want? Why would I pay you $15 for one song and gamble that I MIGHT like another one or two? That's not worth my money. Granted I don't condone getting the album on a site that does file sharing either. I think that all artists gospel and secular need to utilize sites like Amazon, Wal-mart, and iTunes. That way the music gets paid for and I don't get ripped off either.

MP

Joy Taylor said...

When we download music say from Greater Vision that is on ITunes.. Is Greater Vision being paid for that download?

Gerald Wolfe said...

Joy,

Any of Greater Vision's music that you see on iTunes is there because of agreements between iTunes and our record company. The record company keeps an accounting of the iTunes downloads, and pays the royalties accordingly.

Gerald Wolfe said...

madcab76,

I am a big fan of iTunes... I purchase music there myself quite often.
Our most recent CD, "Memories Made New", is not available on iTunes because it is not a "retail release" CD. It's a "concert sale item", and it's also available through our website. It will eventually be available on iTunes, but it will several months.

Kim Allen said...

Thank you so much for posting this. As my husband has several CD's out himself, it is hard for others to realize this very important fact.

Deb said...

I saw the comments about Itunes and I was wondering if the artist makes as much on a DL sold from Itunes as they do on a cd sold from their product table.....provided the whole cd is purchased from Itunes, of course, so we are comparing apples to apples.

Deb said...

Do the artists make as much on a cd DL from Itunes as they do on a sale from their own product table? I wouldn't think so.

MarkBookout said...

Good point! Haven't thought about it in that light.

Gerald Wolfe said...

Deb,

The short answer to your question is "no". Artists make the largest percentage of the sale price when the product is purchased directly from the Artists. iTunes, and all other retail outlets, receive a percentage, or mark-up, as a profit. It's the only way they can stay in business.

B said...

It's interesting that in your other posts on your blog that everyone was saying "thank you" and "you say it the way it is" yet when it comes to this matter we don't see it the way you say it. Even when you support what you say with Scripture.

I don't want just a song here and a song there. I purchase your CD's because I know I will love the music. Just because one song doesn't reach me when I first get a certain CD doesn't mean it never will. Life happens and songs have whole new meanings sometimes.

I would rather purchase a whole CD and have you continue to do what you do, then to not purchase a CD and know I had a part in you not being able to do what you do anymore.

Thank you Gerald for saying it like it is and explaining this issue as clearly as you did. Sometimes people just don't realize all the things groups have to do to get a product out.

B said...

It's interesting that in your other posts on your blog that everyone was saying "thank you" and "you say it the way it is" yet when it comes to this matter we don't see it the way you say it. Even when you support what you say with Scripture.

I don't want just a song here and a song there. I purchase your CD's because I know I will love the music. Just because one song doesn't reach me when I first get a certain CD doesn't mean it never will. Life happens and songs have whole new meanings sometimes.

I would rather purchase a whole CD and have you continue to do what you do, then to not purchase a CD and know I had a part in you not being able to do what you do anymore.

Thank you Gerald for saying it like it is and explaining this issue as clearly as you did. Sometimes people just don't realize all the things groups have to do to get a product out.

Pastor Dave said...

I have downloaded a number of albums of southern gospel music from various legit and legal online sources: ITUNES, EMUSIC & CROSSROADS web site. How do the artists make money from these & how much do these cut into the sales of the artists cds. One reason I do this is that I am from California and almost no christian book stores carry any southern gospel music (unless it is a gaither cd).

Pastor Dave

Wilson Hines said...

Gerald hit the nail on the head. I buy my software, music and what not. I may have somebody hand me a CD and I will try it out, if I like it I go buy it. Currently, I buy almost all of my music via iTunes (30 GBs worth so far) because I have an iPod and it is convenient. Occasionally I will have to venture out and get something that isn't on iTunes (grrrr, GV's latest). I like the anti-piracy features of iTunes and such. It makes it almost impossible to just hand out music and thats the way it should be.
It is so easy to get a warez copy of XP, Vista or Office, but everything in my house is up to the EULA agreement - everything.
A man (or woman) should be rewarded for there work. On top of that, the share all mentality is socialism, at best, or communism, at worst.
We, especially as Christians, should strive to reward others for their innovation. If there is no innovation, there is no progress.
And Gerald, tell Jacob to get in touch with me via e-mail or call me. Jael has my number. I just come up here to see if you had a new album out and his mug was all over the front cover of the site! I almost broke my chair! When we all lived in Gaylord we were very good friends, please pass the message.

matt said...

yes i guess it's stealing but i didn't know that the bible says that we are to charge for our ministry. Truth is, in the bible you will never find a singing group going around as a business charging for there ministry. I thought the bible said freely give freely recieve. I remember when concerts were love offering bases now it's $10 to $40 to get in. Looks like when the times change let's just charge more instead of trusting in God. Sad. And may i state that this statemnet is coming from a person that owns hundreds of cds, dvds, and even records. And also has been to over 50 concerts to support southern gospel music. I have supported you guys and i buy alot of your music. In fact i have i believe every cd from your perfect canadate til the present. Bu i am sorry i feel that the bible states that we should be able to give the gospel out not charge for the message. And yes i have bought cds and given them to others, but times are tough and i lost my job and i cannot do that anymore. So if you want to put a legal stamp on your cds stating you cannot copy this gospel message and share it, you answer to God for that.

I hope you see this from a view of let's think about the souls we could reach instead of from a things are getting tight right now view.

I am not mad at you guys or coming out in anger, but like you i also say it like it is.

for the cause,
matt

matt said...

yes i guess it's stealing but i didn't know that the bible says that we are to charge for our ministry. Truth is, in the bible you will never find a singing group going around as a business charging for there ministry. I thought the bible said freely give freely recieve. I remember when concerts were love offering bases now it's $10 to $40 to get in. Looks like when the times change let's just charge more instead of trusting in God. Sad. And may i state that this statemnet is coming from a person that owns hundreds of cds, dvds, and even records. And also has been to over 50 concerts to support southern gospel music. I have supported you guys and i buy alot of your music. In fact i have i believe every cd from your perfect canadate til the present. Bu i am sorry i feel that the bible states that we should be able to give the gospel out not charge for the message. And yes i have bought cds and given them to others, but times are tough and i lost my job and i cannot do that anymore. So if you want to put a legal stamp on your cds stating you cannot copy this gospel message and share it, you answer to God for that.

I hope you see this from a view of let's think about the souls we could reach instead of from a things are getting tight right now view.

I am not mad at you guys or coming out in anger, but like you i also say it like it is.

for the cause,
matt

Gerald Wolfe said...

Matt,

Your entire comment could be summed up by its first sentence. "Yes, I guess it's stealing..." You're exactly right... it IS stealing, and the Bible DOES say stealing is wrong, period. "Thou shalt not steal." It's a pretty clear message. There is no way around that commandment. I'm certain there is no place in scripture that would justify stealing as a means of spreading the Gospel. Getting the Gospel to as many people as possible ALWAYS costs something. In our denomination (Southern Baptist), our missionaries give up everything to go to the mission field, but they are paid while they are "on the field". I'll be the first to say they're not paid nearly enough, but they are paid. They know ahead of time what they'll be paid. They are not motivated by the money, but since they are "in the world", it takes money to operate. The same is true for our Pastors. They are paid for their work. They know before they take a position as Pastor how much and how often they will be paid. Again, I don't think most of them of motivated by the money, but they have to be paid in order to live in this world. Does knowing ahead of time what they will be paid disqualify them for the ministry? I certainly hope not... else there will be lots of empty pulpits if churches decide to put their Pastors on the "living by faith" system you seem to be promoting.

Believe me, I understand your argument, and I'm not trying to make you feel bad, as I know people in the ministry that live totally "by faith", but your position that stealing is "okay" as long as it promotes the message of the Gospel is not a defensible position... Biblically speaking.

matt said...

gerald,

I unerstan what you are staying. I am not justifiying stealing, if i pointe that way, forgive me. What i was leaning more towars is the copyright. Putting a legal stamp on the gospel saying we can't spread the message that belongs to God without paying you. Yes preachers get paid and missions as well. But most i know just launch out and if they get money they do because they trust in God. Not saying you guys don't, but i think pastors and alot of musicians make alot more money than needed and then they complain about they are loosing money but yet have more money thay 60% of the people they ae asking more from. I have been called to be an evangelist. I am not looking for church support. If God gives it to me fine if not he knows my needs. I have a family of 5 and lost my job. I have no income at all. I have $15 to my name. My car went back to the dealership yesturday. Yet i remember that God gives me what i need. We are here for two reasons: fellowship with God and to tell others about him. When we get wrap up in all this money we think we need then we loose are focus. You might ask, in my situation, how do i survive? I do the Lord's work by faith. I went out street preaching and less than 5 minutes when i got home, i had someone at my door give me groceries. That's faith. If you want to put your faith in cd profit go ahead. But i serve the same GOd you do and HE knows how long you will be on the road. Not by cd profit or support from the people. But God will keep you out there until He is done with you.

Thankyou for showing me your views and you have helped me in some ways. Just to give you a quick testamony of your music, i was trying to get my g.e.d. and i was taking the test and i was praying. I got stumped on some questions and got scared that i wouldn't pass my test. You know what song God gave me, God will pass by on your everyday people cd. And by the way i passed. I am so grateful for your music and ministry. I just see a different view.

God bless you guys,

for the cause,

Matt

hannahsgrandma2002 said...

Gerald,
Is it illegal when more than one person uses the same computer to load their iTunes on their iPod? A friend of mine has an iPod also and she loads it from my computer too. I have several preaching podcast but I have also put the cds I purchased from GV on there. I don't want to steal.
God Bless your ministry. I saw you at Quentin Road last July nad hope to be there again this year.
Charlene

Gerald Wolfe said...

Charlene,

The complicated answer would be... if the person who's iPod you're loading from your computer is not a member of your household, that person should not have access to your personal music folder. You should probably have a separate folder set up in iTunes for their music, and that's very easy to do. I also have a friend who has an iPod, but does not have a personal computer. I have his music in a folder in iTunes with his name on it. There are easy instructions for setting up a new "folder" by clicking "help", in the upper right-hand corner of your iTunes screen. This will solve any potential "copyright infringement" problems you might have.

Melba said...

Dear Gerald,
In response to Matt and a few others regarding their comments about mission work. My nephew and his family are finishing their training at the Wycliffe training facility in North Carolina in preparation for full time work in the mission field. Before they can receive an assignment, they have to have their monthly income needs subscribed through donations in their name. For several years they have felt God calling them to do this and have prepared their finances accordingly. It doesn't matter if you are a missionary in the field; a musical group; a preacher - your families needs have to be met and that requires income. Yes, I believe God honors our desire to spread His work on earth, but we have to be organized and prepared. I believe God will feel more honored and in turn honor us more if we don't spread his message by stealing from the talents of others. I agree with the lady who said the best way to share is to buy the package deals at the concerts and then give away the ones you already have. Stan and I do that as a way of introducing the music to those that are not already fans. We hope that will bring them to love gospel music as much as we do and they will become fans who attend the concerts and buy the products. As someone said, that will "Pay it Forward." I figured out a long time ago that the artists probably made a better profit on merchandise purchased at the concerts or on their website so I don't purchase things at the Christian bookstore anymore. I want ya'll to get as much as possible. I can't begin to imagine what it must cost to fill the tank of your bus!!! Thank you for the sacrifice you make by traveling and giving us the opportunity to experience your witness first hand. I know it has to be hard on your families.
God Bless you and your families,
Melba and Stan Jeffus

Melba said...

Dear Gerald,
I would like to comment on what Matt and a few others said regarding mission work. My nephew and his family are at the Wycliffe missionary training facility in North Carolina completing the final months of their training in preparation for full time missionary work. Before they can be assigned to a field location, they have to have 100% of their monthly financial needs subscribed by donations in their name. For the past several years they have strongly felt God leading them to this ministry and have been arranging their finances accordingly so that they would not have any debt and would require the least amount possible. It doesn't matter if you are a missionary, musical group, or preacher, your families financial needs have to be met. I agree with the lady that said the most economical way to use the music to minister to others is to purchase the package at the concert and then give away the ones you already have. Stan and I do this as a way of introducing others to the joy of gospel music. We see this as an opportunity to recruit new fans who will buy concert tickets, CDs and other merchandise. God wants us to evangalize to others and that's one of our missions on earth, but I believe He will be more honored and in turn will honor us more if don't do this by stealing from the talents of others. Stan and I receive such a blessing from the concerts. I know that it is a huge sacrifice on your part and the part of your families for ya'll to be on the road so much. I can't even imagine what it must cost to fill the tank of your bus!! Please know how much we all appreciate this sacrifice and that you are in our prayers. I suspected that the groups received a better profit from the sale of merchandise at the concerts and on the websites so that's how I purchase my music now instead of going to the Christian bookstore. I want ya'll to make as much as possible so you can continue to serve God with your incredible gifts.
God bless you and your families,
Melba & Stan Jeffus

hannahsgrandma2002 said...

That makes since Gerald. Thank you and God Bless you. Looking forward to seeing GV at the end of July at Quentin Rd. I will buy my friend a set of you music for her ipod too.
Charlene

Gerald Wolfe said...

Charlene,

You are too kind, and we appreciate you.

hannahsgrandma2002 said...

I totally love your music. There is seldom a day that I don't listen to it. I have the DVD from Chicago too and many of my friends have borrowed it to listen to. They all love it.
The Music Pastor at Quentin Road is a dear friend of ours. He use to Pastor a church that my husband & I started in our home. Now he comes to visit the church that my husband Pastor's. David has done the music for one of revivals. We love to have him come to our small country church and present his love for the deaf too.
God Bless you,
Charlene

autumn said...

I agree with everything you said. I guess I never really realized that it was illegal.

Does it work the same way for songwriters? They get something every time someone buys their music? What if someone wants to record one of their songs?

Reforming Baptist said...

Gerald, Thanks for saying this. I've been listening to Greater Vision and other groups like your since the early 90's and I have your first solo CD and Greater Vision's first CD! I think there is going to have to be a technological solution for this. I have bought MP3's online that are somehow locked so that they cannot be copied or recorded onto a CD. Perhaps the files on CD can be built with a way to prohibit copying, or the music industry will have to lobby the government to change the copyright laws.

Well, on the other side of this, if it does cause some to go out of business, it will mean that the gospel music industry will have to really raise the standard of excellence in sound and music content to keep a group or singer in demand. I hate to say it this way, but the not-so-great groups that just sing "feel good, foot stompin' shallow songs will go under, and that would probably be a good thing. Groups like yours who sing songs with real weighty content will keep going.

BBow said...

Dear Gerald,

I was recently introduced to your group through youtube.com while looking up gospel groups that I had heard of. I've enjoyed listening to the Cathedrals, the Statesmen, Legacy Five, and recently Greater Vision. When I find groups that I like I look up their websites to see if they have one and what content they have to offer. I stumbled across your blog by accident while I was clicking around looking for contact information. Once I found it I did send an e-mail asking an unimportant question. This is my second or third visit to your blog, but it is my first time reading this particular entry.

I will be honest and say that I have downloaded music from file-sharing sites and applications to my computer, however, my downloads have not added up to more than a hundred. On saying this, realizing that one hundred is a lot, I don't consider myself to be the worst offender considering that there are some that have downloaded thousands. In my experience, I did not see what I was doing as a big deal. Most of what I had downloaded was material that was 2, 5, 10 years old. In my opinion, even after a two year period, a particular album has pretty much run its course as most artists put out a new album every eight to twelve months. I will also be honest and say that I have justified my downloads by saying that the artists wouldn't have gotten my money anyway because I wasn't going to buy an album for two or three songs that I liked out of the ten or twelve that might be on there. However, after reading your blog I have come to a different kind of understanding as to how the business end of things works. Also, after playing bass guitar for a local band who was trying to sell CDs in my area, I had a change of heart as to my ideas on file-sharing.

Gerald, you have gained my respect, not just through what I have viewed on youtube.com (I think we would like to hear your feelings on that as well), but also through your website and your blog. After reading your words, and through playing music of my own, I have felt what it is like to be on both sides. Even though I have also made copies to put on my computer and mp3 player, I have never made anything available to somebody else through file-sharing or CD copies. I know that it doesn't excuse any of my previous file-sharing activity, but I feel that I made a small difference in not enabling somebody to get an illegal copy from me. Whether or not it actually counts, I don't know.

I appreciate you taking the time to write an article like this and I hope many more people get to read it. Through youtube.com I have found a new gospel group that has been able to touch my life by singing some of the old songs that we still sing in the little Baptist church where I've grown up. You even use the same song book "Church Hymnals" if I have been recognizing it correctly. Through these songs I feel that I have been able to connect with Greater Vision. Keep the faith and God Bless you all.

Brandon

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